View Full Version : Wait, Foxbat is a villain?
AngelSilhouette
02-21-2008, 05:10 PM
But it's such a cute and fluffy heroic sounding name. ^_________^
*huggles teh Foxbat*
Doc_Boy
02-21-2008, 05:12 PM
Hes so evil.
AngelSilhouette
02-21-2008, 05:13 PM
I reject teh evilness! *continues to huggle* ^____^
He's technically a villain, but only because the narrow-minded and autocratic system doesn't understand his genius. If everyone were to bow before him, the world would be perfect. He is the ultimate philosopher-king, spoken of in legend and myth. If everyone would just understand that and give him all your stuff, everything would be good. But the 'heroes' and 'governments' of The System just try to keep a good Foxbat down.
Rhyder
02-21-2008, 05:27 PM
Hes a villain, I do like the name though! And yes he is evil! :D
Spidey88
02-21-2008, 06:11 PM
Well, he's not so much "evil" as he is "completely off his rocker". A villain, yes - but usually only because his Master Plans (eg. trying to steal the Empire State building or the world's largest cubic zirconia) are terribly inconvenient and disruptive. Basically, he's utterly daffy - like the Joker without the "mean" and more "crazy", as he'd never intentionally hurt civilians, or kill anybody period. He's convinced he lives in a comic book, and has decided to live his life as such. He's survived due to not only his surprising level of skill (despite of, or perhaps because of his looniness), but because he's also ridiculously lucky.
These, among other reasons, are the factors by which he rocks. In the RPG, he is the sort of villain that should cause the players to groan at the mere mention of his name - and cause the GM to giggle uncontrollably whenever plotting his next move.
Here, on the forum, he is my undeniable lord and master! No - wait - Grand Overlord sounds better.
All glory to Foxbat!
AngelSilhouette
02-21-2008, 07:03 PM
Well, he's not so much "evil" as he is "completely off his rocker". A villain, yes - but usually only because his Master Plans (eg. trying to steal the Empire State building or the world's largest cubic zirconia) are terribly inconvenient and disruptive. Basically, he's utterly daffy - like the Joker without the "mean" and more "crazy", as he'd never intentionally hurt civilians, or kill anybody period. He's convinced he lives in a comic book, and has decided to live his life as such. He's survived due to not only his surprising level of skill (despite of, or perhaps because of his looniness), but because he's also ridiculously lucky.
These, among other reasons, are the factors by which he rocks. In the RPG, he is the sort of villain that should cause the players to groan at the mere mention of his name - and cause the GM to giggle uncontrollably whenever plotting his next move.
Here, on the forum, he is my undeniable lord and master! No - wait - Grand Overlord sounds better.
All glory to Foxbat!
This post is full of win ^___^ Thank you all for the info.
Baron
02-21-2008, 07:14 PM
Well, he's not so much "evil" as he is "completely off his rocker". A villain, yes - but usually only because his Master Plans (eg. trying to steal the Empire State building or the world's largest cubic zirconia) are terribly inconvenient and disruptive. Basically, he's utterly daffy - like the Joker without the "mean" and more "crazy", as he'd never intentionally hurt civilians, or kill anybody period. He's convinced he lives in a comic book, and has decided to live his life as such. He's survived due to not only his surprising level of skill (despite of, or perhaps because of his looniness), but because he's also ridiculously lucky.
These, among other reasons, are the factors by which he rocks. In the RPG, he is the sort of villain that should cause the players to groan at the mere mention of his name - and cause the GM to giggle uncontrollably whenever plotting his next move.
Here, on the forum, he is my undeniable lord and master! No - wait - Grand Overlord sounds better.
All glory to Foxbat!
You people and your snazzy info...making want to go and buy Champions after every other Super PnP I've tried has sucked...I have no one to play with here. You all are horrible people and should be ashamed. :p
Evil_Midnight_Lurker
02-21-2008, 07:17 PM
Let me see if I can remember this classic comics panel from Second and Third Edition Champions...
"Foxbattleplan: Break into Champions headquarters, soundly defeat those pathetic wimps, and take Mechanon's brain. Next, hook it up to the transporter on the Paramount lot, kidnap everyone on Earth, and hold them for ransom."
That pretty much sums up Freddy right there... :D
Malaclypse
02-21-2008, 07:20 PM
But it's such a cute and fluffy heroic sounding name. ^_________^
*huggles teh Foxbat*
Many old-school Champs gamers frequently commented that one of the things they loved about the game books were the lunatic Foxbat cartoons that made it in, or the diatribes from his point of view, etc.
I remember laughing so hard I hurt myself when I read the first character sheet I saw on him and noticed the painstaking detail put into his ping-pong gun.
Mind you, I wouldn't want to have it fired at ME!
Brewhammer
02-21-2008, 07:23 PM
Foxbat's bio from "back in the day," from the Champions RPG game...
What happens when you cross a very smart inventor and a comic book fan with a taste for adventure? Why Foxbat, of course.
He had his comics, that would have been all that he wanted, but then he saw the real thing on the news. A few of the "Superheroes" where not so super, but instead relied on intelligence and the ability to make the tools that they needed to win.
He was already very smart, he could get in on the game, all he needed was the tools. Looking around his room he found all the tools that he needed, at least for the mundane things. His mind went to work on the more advanced things.
Late one night, on a roof top over looking a battle between Superheroes and Supervillains, the man now known as Foxbat made his appearance. He had told the press about the battle and was waiting for the cameras to show, he wanted to make a big splash with his first appearance.
The news van pulled up and started their remote feed. He waited for the action down on the street to slow a bit then started his new career. NEVER FEAR, FOXBAT IS ON THE SCENE. He had to work on that, it didn't have the ring he was looking for.
He posed for the camera. Chin up, chest out and gun pointing to the distance. Then he leapt from the roof and glided down to the street. He landed with the standard "crouching tiger" stance, the cameras where all over him. He drew his gun and fired at the Supervillain, but the gun was loaded with the wrong ammunition sequence. The first shot loaded was the explosion, he would never use that one again.
The explosion had no effect on the villains, but knocked the heroes for a loop. The cameras thought that he was a villain and fled the scene.
The villain Foxbat was born, though he doesn't want to be a villain, it was all a mistake.
From Wikipedia...
Although the story varies slightly from printing to printing, Foxbat was originally Freddy Foswell, an eccentric pampered rich boy. When he lost his fortune, he went from eccentric to deranged. Because he lived in a world with superheroes, his warped mind convinced itself that this was the beginning of his secret origin and he became the villain Foxbat.
Unlike other villains who want to become rich or amass personal power, Foxbat's twisted sense of logic has him acting like a campy comic book villain who performs extremely outlandish crimes for little apparent reason. In the latest edition of the game Foxbat made his debut as a villain by trying to carry off the entire Empire State Building. In Champions Universe: News of the World, Foxbat decides to conquer the music world, recording an album and frauldently booking a stadium (claiming to represent the superheroine and rock star Sapphire) -- the only time that "one of Foxbat's plans worked out just as he intended."
Foxbat claims these crimes play a crucial part in a "Master Plan" he's devised, although his Master Plan seems to change every time he appears.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxbat_(Hero_Universe)
It would now appear that Foxbat's embraced his inner villain. Soon he'll be stealing candy from babies and kicking their asses when they cry about it.
Madjik
02-21-2008, 07:27 PM
Let me see if I can remember this classic comics panel from Second and Third Edition Champions...
"Foxbattleplan: Break into Champions headquarters, soundly defeat those pathetic wimps, and take Mechanon's brain. Next, hook it up to the transporter on the Paramount lot, kidnap everyone on Earth, and hold them for ransom."
That pretty much sums up Freddy right there... :D
That is awsome on more levels then my puny little mind can comprehend. Insanity has it's benefits though ;)
AngelSilhouette
02-21-2008, 07:44 PM
Foxbat's bio from "back in the day," from the Champions RPG game...
What happens when you cross a very smart inventor and a comic book fan with a taste for adventure? Why Foxbat, of course.
He had his comics, that would have been all that he wanted, but then he saw the real thing on the news. A few of the "Superheroes" where not so super, but instead relied on intelligence and the ability to make the tools that they needed to win.
He was already very smart, he could get in on the game, all he needed was the tools. Looking around his room he found all the tools that he needed, at least for the mundane things. His mind went to work on the more advanced things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxbat_(Hero_Universe)
It would now appear that Foxbat's embraced his inner villain. Soon he'll be stealing candy from babies and kicking their asses when they cry about it.
Wow that sounds like Syndrome... Gotta wonder if this is where Disney st- got their idea for him.
-edit-
Also. Foxbat is now right up alongside Invader Zim and The Crazy Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight as my favorite villains ^____^
Evil_Midnight_Lurker
02-21-2008, 08:39 PM
Wow that sounds like Syndrome... Gotta wonder if this is where Disney st- got their idea for him.
-edit-
Also. Foxbat is now right up alongside Invader Zim and The Crazy Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight as my favorite villains ^____^
Pardon me, I'm sure you meant to say the EVIL Midnight Bomber what Bombs at Midnight. :)
Snow_Dogs
02-21-2008, 08:45 PM
If Foxbat = Villain
and Foxbat = Forum Moderator.....
does that mean Forum Trolls = good guys?
:confused:
Fayde
02-21-2008, 09:10 PM
I'm just glad to see a Moderator that admits he's evil...
AngelSilhouette
02-21-2008, 10:01 PM
Foxbat's bio from "back in the day," from the Champions RPG game...
From Wikipedia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxbat_(Hero_Universe)
It would now appear that Foxbat's embraced his inner villain. Soon he'll be stealing candy from babies and kicking their asses when they cry about it.
Pardon me, I'm sure you meant to say the EVIL Midnight Bomber what Bombs at Midnight. :)
>.< D'oh! Yeah, I meant evil :)
And so he says to me, he says, "I don't like the cut of your jib"; so I says to him, I says, "IT'S THE ONLY JIB I GOT, BABY!"
Gold-Rush
02-21-2008, 10:17 PM
Ya know, I didn't know just who this Juicy-Fruit chewing guy was and couldn't really care about him.
But your posts folks.... Man, I am starting to get a "shine" on him....
Dammit! ;p
Turbo_ski
02-21-2008, 10:22 PM
Foxbat is so cool BECAUSE he is a villain.
RedSocialKnight
02-21-2008, 10:23 PM
Is our version of Foxbat the same one who is good when female, but evil when male?
Avatar_of_Champions
02-21-2008, 10:25 PM
I use to have 4th edition Champions back in the early 90's....
My GM hated me and thus Foxbat became my archnemisis....
Everybody else had 'cool' villians like the Card Sharp Orginization (Dark Champions) or Viper...
I had Foxbat...
And the sad part? :(
I was never able to catch the bastid!!
And now I find out that he is the moderator here?
Somewhere, some when, in this vast universe, some omniscient entity is laughing at me....
Malaclypse
02-21-2008, 10:32 PM
Foxbat's bio from "back in the day," from the Champions RPG game...
From Wikipedia...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxbat_(Hero_Universe)
It would now appear that Foxbat's embraced his inner villain. Soon he'll be stealing candy from babies and kicking their asses when they cry about it.
Thank you for posting that! I had never realized he had a wikipedia entry. After all, if Connie Dobbs, the Blessed Anti-Virgin doesn't get one. . .
Evil_Midnight_Lurker
02-21-2008, 10:32 PM
Somewhere, some when, in this vast universe, some omniscient entity is laughing at me...."You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to exist. And whether you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back." --Deteriorata
SuperPheemy
02-21-2008, 11:08 PM
He's not just a Villain... he's a TRAGIC Villain! Lamenting the "what could have beens" the horrible twist of fate that led him to this life of Supervillainy when he just as easily been a HERO! Oh Cruel Fate! For now Enters the Foxbat! And when his MASTER PLAN is realized, the world will never be the same!
Avadon
02-21-2008, 11:51 PM
Foxbat? (http://www.ausairpower.net/000-Foxbat-A-2.jpg) It's got a red star on it, it's clearly of Soviet origin, thus making it pure evil.
Spidey88
02-22-2008, 12:56 AM
I think the gender-switching Foxbat was confined solely to some of the comics. The PnP Foxbat is entirely stable in gender - distinctly contrasting with his mind!
What more needs to be said about a man whose battlecry is likely "WHEEEEEE!"
AngelSilhouette
02-22-2008, 04:10 PM
What more needs to be said about a man whose battlecry is likely "WHEEEEEE!"
Ok Foxbat is officially full of win for me, now.
<3 Foxbat, great ruler of everything that is cool.
OniDaimyo
02-22-2008, 05:09 PM
So can we be silly heros or villians like Foxbat or must we be serious? And can we have villians already in the Champs universe as a nemsis? Like can I have Dr Destroyer or must I make my own bad guy?
Also, has Wolverine sued foxbat yet for taking his ears? :p
Malaclypse
02-22-2008, 07:56 PM
So can we be silly heros or villians like Foxbat or must we be serious? And can we have villians already in the Champs universe as a nemsis? Like can I have Dr Destroyer or must I make my own bad guy?
Also, has Wolverine sued foxbat yet for taking his ears? :p
Marvel most likely sued Hero Systems for SOMEthing or other at some point. Especially at the time, they were the huge bully of the comic book world. Ready, SUE, Aim!
I seem to think it was over the Dr. Destroyer/Dr. Doom similarities, though. I'm sure at the very least they frequently made threatening noises. Shoot, I'm surprised I never got a ceast-and-desist letter from Marvel without ever being in comics!
AngelSilhouette
02-22-2008, 08:04 PM
Marvel most likely sued Hero Systems for SOMEthing or other at some point. Especially at the time, they were the huge bully of the comic book world. Ready, SUE, Aim!
I seem to think it was over the Dr. Destroyer/Dr. Doom similarities, though. I'm sure at the very least they frequently made threatening noises. Shoot, I'm surprised I never got a ceast-and-desist letter from Marvel without ever being in comics!
DC is pretty jumpy about that kind of stuff as well. Quite a long time ago, there was some litigation over Captain Marvel / Captain Mar Vell. This is, of course, before my time; I just have to go by what my DC fanatic friend tells me.
Spidey88
02-22-2008, 08:13 PM
So can we be silly heros or villians like Foxbat or must we be serious? And can we have villians already in the Champs universe as a nemsis? Like can I have Dr Destroyer or must I make my own bad guy?
Also, has Wolverine sued foxbat yet for taking his ears?
I imagine it'll depend on who's actually included in the game (to some degree). I hope to be able to create Hornet as my planned character's nemesis - he might be obscure enough that I can do so without crossing over with anybody scripted in the game - but I suspect it'll be difficult for any villain that's already included in the game (eg. Dr. Destroyer).
We'll just have to wait and see - maybe there'll be a pull-down menu in conjunction with the "make your own nemesis" function - choose from this list, or make your own. I'm hoping for both, personally! My character has VIPER and Hornet in his background - if I can get them all involved, that'd be sweet (even if I'm constantly fending off attacks on my own life)...
Vox_Populi
02-22-2008, 09:33 PM
I look forward to seeing Exo-Skeleton Man!
Spidey88
02-22-2008, 10:05 PM
Boo-yeah, brotha! Old-school Champs players unite!
I look forward to seeing Exo-Skeleton Man!
No! Exoskeleton Man is evil! And unpopular! No one likes him. He would be a terrible character to include in the game. Just say no.
This message brought to you by the Friends of Foxbat. Accept no substitute. Except that Not Butter stuff - it's delicious.
Greylurker
02-23-2008, 12:12 AM
In all my years playing Champions PnP there are only 2 villains that gave me a headache when used to their full potential. Foxbat and Bulldozer.
Both so ****ed annoying in the hands of a good GM.
In all my years playing Champions PnP there are only 2 villains that gave me a headache when used to their full potential. Foxbat and Bulldozer.
Both so ****ed annoying in the hands of a good GM.
OK, I have to ask... Bulldozer? He doesn't stand out in my mind as a potential nightmare. Foxbat, sure, but Bulldozer? Does he have some power combination I've forgotten? Or is he built on super-cheap Hand to hand damage or something? I'm stumped.
Greylurker
02-23-2008, 12:50 AM
OK, I have to ask... Bulldozer? He doesn't stand out in my mind as a potential nightmare. Foxbat, sure, but Bulldozer? Does he have some power combination I've forgotten? Or is he built on super-cheap Hand to hand damage or something? I'm stumped.
If you have ever played a Female hero in Champions with a GM who can make the most of Bulldozer he becomes a psychological nightmare.
Stat wise he is nothing. he exists to be beat down.
but when he is saying "oh yeah Baby, you know you want the Dozer" while you do it,,,,,,,,,
sooooo much Rage.
Rex_Havoc
02-23-2008, 04:27 AM
And lets not forget Foxbat's primo ride back in the day of Champions 2nd Edition: The Centipede-mobile!!
And I seem to recall he managed to get one of Mechanon's duplicates and programmed it to be his personal cook and house-cleaner. ;)
Sketchpad
02-23-2008, 07:18 AM
I love using Foxbat in my games! My players on the other hand ... not so happy when they hear his theme song ;)
Kitsune
02-23-2008, 07:32 AM
DC is pretty jumpy about that kind of stuff as well. Quite a long time ago, there was some litigation over Captain Marvel / Captain Mar Vell. This is, of course, before my time; I just have to go by what my DC fanatic friend tells me.
If you think Marvel Lawyers have no since of humor, just ask Toyfare magazine why no DC characters show up in Twisted Toyfare Theater?
Malaclypse
02-23-2008, 10:29 AM
DC is pretty jumpy about that kind of stuff as well. Quite a long time ago, there was some litigation over Captain Marvel / Captain Mar Vell. This is, of course, before my time; I just have to go by what my DC fanatic friend tells me.
Oh, that's a good one, actually. Turns out in the end after decades of litigation going ALL over the place that the 'Captain Marvel' rights belong to someone predating DC and Marvel's use of it.
The original owner ended up sort of getting beaten up by Marvel before the DC vs Marvel over Captain Marvel litigation, and sidelined for ages. He renamed his character to Miracleman or somesuch and things get complicated from there.
They dug up a lot of that stuff in the legal wranglings between Todd McFarlane and Neil Gaiman over the characters Gaiman created in Spawn #9. Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman seem interested in republishing the Miracle Man stuff they did, and so backtracking through defunct studios and rights agreements and misunderstandings and decades-old lawsuits revealed some very strange stuff.
I keep an eye on it, since I want to read the Silver Age and Golden Age Miracleman graphic novels if they ever get published.
Avatar_of_Champions
02-23-2008, 01:30 PM
When we say Foxbat was annyony we mean it:
Once I was in the middle of a a fight with Foxbat in a shopping mall.
Then along came a group of grammar school children, on a field trip, one of his shots accidentally hits the wheelchair of a disabled child and sticks it to the floor;
Foxbat stopped fighting (since he refuses to harm innocents or kill) and runs away, I start gathering the children to escort them out of the mall...
Suddenly Foxbat appears out of a puff of smoke, while I'm carrying the disabled child, and HE IS PUSHING A BRAND NEW WHEELCHAIR WITH TRAYES OF ICECREAM CONES ON IT....
He then helps me take the kids to the bus, and as I load the last child on the bus he runs away again...
Then as the school bus leaves with the kids and the new wheelchair; a police officer finally shows up and ask:
"Would you mind helping us with a case? It seems someone in a costume stole a morterized wheelchair from the old folks home next door, while they were doing water aerobics.."
When we say Foxbat was annyony we mean it:
Exactly. Foxbat is a great guy. Kind to kids, and who doesn't like ice cream?
Malaclypse
02-23-2008, 06:04 PM
Exactly. Foxbat is a great guy. Kind to kids, and who doesn't like ice cream?
Well, after all, having kids around with loads of ice cream at their disposal is part of the Master Plan.
Hythian
02-23-2008, 06:22 PM
Well, after all, having kids around with loads of ice cream at their disposal is part of the Master Plan.
I can think of few things that would be more of a distraction than a bunch of hyper-active children all with ice cream. A perfect setup for his master plan, herd all those kids somewhere to attract attention and then he can slink away (with style of course) to pursue his diabolical goals while everyone else is trying to get the kids to shut-up or get all the ice cream off their faces and their hands clean before they leave sticky handprints all over the place.
Malaclypse
02-23-2008, 06:36 PM
I can think of few things that would be more of a distraction than a bunch of hyper-active children all with ice cream. A perfect setup for his master plan, herd all those kids somewhere to attract attention and then he can slink away (with style of course) to pursue his diabolical goals while everyone else is trying to get the kids to shut-up or get all the ice cream off their faces and their hands clean before they leave sticky handprints all over the place.
Hmm... he could give me some mint java chocolate chip and do without the kids. Extra heapings of sugar and caffeine are necessary for my super powers to come out!
Oh, wait, maybe it just seems that way at the time.
OniDaimyo
02-23-2008, 06:43 PM
Wasn't there a evil clown group way back in the days of Champs?
Deadpool hates clowns. Must kill the evil clowns. :-p
Wasn't there a evil clown group way back in the days of Champs?
Deadpool hates clowns. Must kill the evil clowns. :-p
Yes, CLOWN - anarchist silly villains - great stuff. Apparently, they're not currently active in the Champions world, but hopefully they'll make a resurgence in the MMO.
OniDaimyo
02-23-2008, 10:13 PM
Or someone could always make them. But then I would have to kill them. :D
Malaclypse
02-23-2008, 10:15 PM
Or someone could always make them. But then I would have to kill them. :D
You know, that's one thing I'd really love to see in the game - the ability to have your own villain group or agents running around doing stuff, and have them be seen at times.
Evil_Midnight_Lurker
02-23-2008, 10:41 PM
Wasn't there a evil clown group way back in the days of Champs?
Deadpool hates clowns. Must kill the evil clowns. :-pThe Criminal Legion Of Wacky Nonconformists are certainly not evil! They're just... criminally wacky and non-conformist.
They once distributed copies of "GURPS Steve Jackson" at a con. :)
Hythian
02-23-2008, 11:47 PM
The Criminal Legion Of Wacky Nonconformists are certainly not evil! They're just... criminally wacky and non-conformist.
They once distributed copies of "GURPS Steve Jackson" at a con. :)
That would be disturbing... A GURPS expansion about... Making more GURPS expansions.
I don't actually remember Foxbat ever showing up in any of the Champions / Dark Champions games I played in. Usually the STs I had were either: (A) more keen on coming up with villains of their own creation to demonstrate that they were better at min/maxing point values then the players were, or (B) so interested in actually telling a unique / original story that they never even bothered to really stat out the villains and just had very rough ideas of the villains powers and faked everything during combat.
Which is kind of a pity. I always thought it would be fun to try to out-crazy Foxbat. We usually had a character / player in the party that was mentally broken enough to give it a good try.
CorPse
02-24-2008, 12:00 AM
He's technically a villain, but only because the narrow-minded and autocratic system doesn't understand his genius. If everyone were to bow before him, the world would be perfect. He is the ultimate philosopher-king, spoken of in legend and myth. If everyone would just understand that and give him all your stuff, everything would be good. But the 'heroes' and 'governments' of The System just try to keep a good Foxbat down.
The Foxbat himself couldn't have said it better.
CorPse
02-24-2008, 12:05 AM
I look forward to seeing Exo-Skeleton Man!
That'd be the AMAZING Exo-Skeleton Man to you... :cool: ;)
Don't know if you've ever played PnP Champions, but he gave me my best damage roll ever as a GM.
It was only 10d6... but I rolled eight 6's, a 5, and a four.
Exo put a player down, yo!
(But seriously, thanks for bringing him up... gave me some good old school-style enjoyment.)
Malaclypse
02-24-2008, 10:46 AM
That'd be the AMAZING Exo-Skeleton Man to you... :cool: ;)
Don't know if you've ever played PnP Champions, but he gave me my best damage roll ever as a GM.
It was only 10d6... but I rolled eight 6's, a 5, and a four.
Exo put a player down, yo!
(But seriously, thanks for bringing him up... gave me some good old school-style enjoyment.)
Owie! 18 Body damage? Then they hit a nice reinforced wall and take another 16d6 or so, keeping them down!
sentaison
02-24-2008, 11:11 AM
I look forward to seeing Exo-Skeleton Man!
What about the Fabulous Foxbatmobile? I would love to see all those legs animated!:p
Penguinhog
02-24-2008, 11:23 AM
Doesn't Foxbat use a ping pong ball gun? Thats sillier than his name. The only fan that guy has is Grond and thats just to make the applause meter happy.
Lord_Liaden
02-24-2008, 12:16 PM
Over on the Hero Games discussion forums is a big list of fan-generated "plot seeds" for various Champions Universe villains. Several are for Foxbat, and together I think they give a very good impression of what this character is all about and how he can be used in a game:
So, How Do I Look? -- The heroes get a phone call from a contact/the police/see it on the news/etc... that Foxbat has taken around three hundred people at a high class fasion show hostage!
When they finally get to the scene, everyone is safe and Foxbat is loooooong gone? What's going on here? If the heroes interview anyone (hell, even if they don't they'll find out as it gets broadcast over every newscast in America and Europe) they find out that Foxbat took the entire show hostage, for just long enough to walk the catwalk (while singing "I'm a Model" slightly off key...) and leave.
Well, after an imbarasingly long streak of Master Plans (TM) that not only backfired, but almost got him caught, Foxbat has done some additional research into the Study of Successful Villans and has come to the conclusion that all successful villans look really cool! The fact that he might (gasp!) have a stupid looking costume comes as quite a shock, and the Great Foxy One takes it upon himself to prove that he is indeed the best dressed supervillan in the world!
The fasion show's next stop is in Paris and the owner asks the heroes if they would please travel with them for a little extra security. The Paris show is not only debuing the fasion designer's latest summerwear evening lien, but his best friend's latest jewlery collection worth, in total, over three million dollars.
In Paris, Foxbat crashes the show and when the heroes go to trounce him, find that the models run into the lines of fire, grappel with martial artists, and just generally try to get in the way. What's going on? Well...the models think he's cute and they don't want the heroes to hurt him! After all, he only wants to "do a little turn on the catwalk"!
Possible complication: several supervillianesses (possibly Esper, Medusa, Mentallia, etc...anyone with a secret identity, who is able to control minds, or who can appear as someone else) infultrated the show several weeks prior in order to get access to the jewles. Now not only are the PCs in their way, but they stopped the show before Foxbat could get to their favrite part ("and I shake my little tush on the catwalk!)
Foxbat has conceived of his greatest master plan! Every great supervillain always has a legion of cybernetic robots slavishly loyal to his every whim. Besides, after Foxbat has seen the Terminator movies 80 times, he figures cyborgs are cool...really cool. And robots don't complain or whine like human lackeys do, they don't need to get paid or eat, nor do they hurt his feelings or run away when the going gets a little tough.
But what to use as a prototype model to create his vast army? Well only the best will do! Mechanon of course. A little judicious reprogramming after the robot falls for his ingenously clever trap/ambush (a swimming pool and some plugged in household appliances) and Foxbat will be all set. Foxbat will also have few custom modifications to his ping pong ball gun (water and shock charges, everyone KNOWS robots always short out) and Mechanon will be helpless before the might of Foxbat!
Reprogramming Mechanon should be easy, after Foxbat's vast experience with Lego robots.
The PCs hear about this of course when Foxbat issues challenges to Mechanon over the radio, television and even on the Goodyear blimp. The players may or may not arrive, or chose to arrive when Mechanon makes his appearance to disintegrate the organic for his impertinence.
As a fluke the GM could have Foxbat's master plan actually work...for a little while. A freak (unbelievably lucky) hit with the ping pong ball gun combined with the immersion in the electrified pool during a peak solar flare and a temporary fluctuation of the EM field of the Van Allen belt briefly randomizes Mechanon's programming so he follows Foxbat's every command, even to the extent of turning over a manufacturing facility to Foxbat's control. Of course Foxbat immediately begins churning out a dozen different designs of Foxbots.
The PCs should find the hideout/factory just when Mechanon's backup programming reasserts itself and restore the killer cyborg to his usual chipper personality.
Weapons of Mass Destruction - Foxbat interupts tv signals acrost the nation informing everyone that he now has a weapon of mass destruction and will use it if he is not made 'master of the world'. The goverment (or anyone else) refuses to take the loon seriously provoking the use to the weapon. The device is truely a weapon of MASS destruction.. can the PC find and stop foxbat before everyone in the city becomes lighter then air and floats away?
Special Collector's issue: Foxbat is a tad... 'reality impaired', and some part of him no doubt thinks, as go the comics, so goes my plan. Thus, he breaks into a comic book company, and by stealth, or threat of ping pong ball reprisal, switches the planned issues with ones staring HIM, Foxbat. Triumphant and looking kewl! If your PCs have comics being made of them, imagine their surprise to see themselves getting their butts kicked by the Foxy one. For that matter, how will they feel if they are portrayed as sidekicks and/or love interests? Complications could ensue; Will Foxbat have to be saved from a horde of irate comic fanboys? Will he actually become a cult hit? What if a villain reads the comics and doesn't like the battle scene in one where Foxbat trounces him or her?
Foxbat Inc. -- After the stunning (literally) success of his latest Master Plan (TM), Foxbat has gotten it into his head that he has what it takes to be a Criminal Mastermind and work behind the scenes (besides...he figures that he'll get a desk too...c'mon...who wouldn't want a desk?)
Unfortunately, all of Foxbat's prior experience with other supervillans has convinced him that working with them usually ends up costing a lot of money, so he has decided to open up his own buisness: Foxbat Inc.! (right on the corner of 5th and Main) Being a legitmate buisness, the Heroes and the law can't touch him (the successful Master Plan (TM) didn't leave any clues) and the Master Plans (TM) start at $19.95 and come with a contract absolving Foxbat of any responsibility for the use of the plans (while Foxbat might be a loony, his lawyer isn't)
While some of the heroes might feel safer at least knowing where the little guy is from 9-9pm, what happens when some of his plans actually work? Bwa Ha Ha Ha Ha!
Did you ever know that you're my hero? : After getting his butt kicked by one of your PCs, rather than being angry; Foxbat becomes incredibly impressed. So impressed in fact, that he adopts that hero's methods and trademark way of fighting crime for DOING his crime. Should, for example, Nighthawk defeat him. Foxbat will change his colors to a silver and black for a time, with an exagerated foxy cowl. He'll ditch the ping pong gun, trade it in for a ping pong paddle ,and overdramatize the hero's whole stichk. Not only is this embarrassing for the hero, some moron out there who is robbed may accuse the hero of doing it instead. Foxbat has to be brought in, and uhm.. well, hopefully your PC won't rough him up tooo badly.
I need a rival/hunted/etc: Foxbat is feeling down. He has no rival to compete against. No criminal with similar motiff to compare himself to. Where's the struggle? Where's the race to see who can be the best? Clearly... he must do something. That's when he hears about the High tech armor/experimental power drug/mystical device/whatever being held in the science lab/corporation's office/mueseum/whereever. He takes this, then goes around asking likely folks if they'd like to be a super villain. If they say yes, he hands it over. Naturally, the one who says yes is not likely to share Foxbat's psychosis, and might be a SERIOUS threat to the city. Foxbat may find this new guy plays too rough, and have to run to the heroes telling them "He's not playing by the rules and he won't give it back! Make him!"
Avatar_of_Champions
02-24-2008, 12:33 PM
Lord_Liaden, i hate you so very very much...
I was thinking about waiting a few months to get the Heroes Core Rulebook and the Champions genre book (They are expensive)
But now you have made me reminis about the past and i actually miss having that nutball Foxbat as my Arch Nemisis...
I think I need professional help... I actually miss Foxbat...:confused:
BluePrism
02-24-2008, 12:40 PM
If Foxbat is the king, does that mean he can demand anything from us, or that we have to strike him down for villainous freedom?
sentaison
02-24-2008, 07:17 PM
DOH! I meant to say Cenitpedemobile!:o
If Foxbat is the king, does that mean he can demand anything from us, or that we have to strike him down for villainous freedom?
Yes, he can demand anything from us, and we have to give it to him. Especially pies. Hopefully they'll hard-code this into the game, so that Foxbat can walk up to anyone and they give him pies. Everyone loves pies.
Golden-Girl
02-25-2008, 10:49 AM
I'm just glad to see a Moderator that admits he's evil...
They all are to a certain extent :p
Rosebud
02-25-2008, 02:39 PM
Foxbat is a nutcase first. Villain is a distant second. :)
Avatar_of_Champions
02-25-2008, 04:06 PM
Foxbat is a nutcase first. Villain is a distant second. :)
Foxbat is just differently sane.
If youe going by definitions he is a villain:
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vil·lain (vĭl'ən) Pronunciation Key
n.
1. A wicked or evil person; a scoundrel.
2. A dramatic or fictional character who is typically at odds with the hero.
3. also (vĭl'ān', vĭ-lān') Variant of villein.
4. Something said to be the cause of particular trouble or an evil: poverty, the villain in the increase of crime.
5. Obsolete A peasant regarded as vile and brutish.
Especially number 2.
On the other hand he is about as evil as a care bear, he uses cream pies as weapons. He refuses to hurt ANYBODY and he will actually help bystanders if his antics put them in jeopardy.
At most he is the ultimate nuisance. This is why law enforcement does not make to much of a fuss to catch him (they could always freeze his assets like most criminals but they don't ) and why heroes generally are not to bothered when he makes his inevitable escape.
Fate favors fools and little children, thus Foxbat is her favored progeny..
Malaclypse
02-25-2008, 04:37 PM
Wait! Hold the phone!
It just occurred to me - FoxBat is admitting to being King, which means. . .
ELVIS LIVES!
What a clever disguise for the man from Tupelo - a secret identity which has its OWN secret identity!
Such panache! Such flair! Such elegance!
What a scheme.
Wait - does Priscilla know?
AngelSilhouette
02-25-2008, 05:02 PM
Wait! Hold the phone!
It just occurred to me - FoxBat is admitting to being King, which means. . .
ELVIS LIVES!
What a clever disguise for the man from Tupelo - a secret identity which has its OWN secret identity!
Such panache! Such flair! Such elegance!
What a scheme.
Wait - does Priscilla know?
SHHHHHHH! Yer gonna spoil it! :p
Virgo
02-25-2008, 05:09 PM
I seem to remember in one of the earlier Champions PnP supplement, Foxbat threatened the readers that if we didn't send him our xp, he would use his ray gun "Gadget O' Death" on us.
Of course, the gadget had a ridiculously low activation roll (8 or less on 3D6) so the thing never worked anyway.
BlackArachnia
02-25-2008, 05:20 PM
I use to have 4th edition Champions back in the early 90's....
My GM hated me and thus Foxbat became my archnemisis....
Everybody else had 'cool' villians like the Card Sharp Orginization (Dark Champions) or Viper...
I had Foxbat...
And the sad part? :(
I was never able to catch the bastid!!
And now I find out that he is the moderator here?
Somewhere, some when, in this vast universe, some omniscient entity is laughing at me....
Thank you. You made my day with that laugh.
BlackArachnia
02-25-2008, 05:34 PM
I seem to remember in one of the earlier Champions PnP supplement, Foxbat threatened the readers that if we didn't send him our xp, he would use his ray gun "Gadget O' Death" on us.
Of course, the gadget had a ridiculously low activation roll (8 or less on 3D6) so the thing never worked anyway.
That. And personal FOCI and saved XP were not transferable. Not that Foxbat knew that LOL.
Malaclypse
02-25-2008, 05:45 PM
That. And personal FOCI and saved XP were not transferable. Not that Foxbat knew that LOL.
Oh, I trust he had a Master Plan and device intended to perform the XP transfer, probably adapted from one of those old brain-transfer devices he got on sale at the old Nazi War Criminal/Mad Scientist Surplus store.
Virgo
02-25-2008, 05:48 PM
That. And personal FOCI and saved XP were not transferable. Not that Foxbat knew that LOL.
OMG, you remembered that! :eek:
That makes you my new best friend.
BlackArachnia
02-25-2008, 09:43 PM
OMG, you remembered that! :eek:
That makes you my new best friend.
I alos remember in Champions 3 (Different from Champions 3rd edition) with that wonderful random character generator. (My old main Champs character was made with that.) I remember watching Fox-Bat sneak through the Champions HQ looking for Mechanon, who was oddly enough being used as a coat rack and coffee dispenser, while Exo Skeleton Man tried to feen quarters into the parking meters to keep the Centepide Mobile from getting a ticket.
Marksman challenged Fox-Bat to a duel, while the ice guy, (I forget the name) made a snow cone where the ping pong gun was. We all know where that went LOL.
Pleasure to meet you Virgo. *Bow* :D
ShinDaiShi
02-25-2008, 10:02 PM
Foxbat is such a looser that he could never make it as a hero so he had to become a villain. Well that and the fact that he's a meglomaniac idiot.
Avatar_of_Champions
02-25-2008, 10:06 PM
Foxbat is such a looser that he could never make it as a hero so he had to become a villain. Well that and the fact that he's a meglomaniac idiot.
I'm taking it your not a fan of Foxbat?
While most of us may agree with your synopsis, we still find him to be a amusing megalomaniac idiot.
If you really dislike the character by all means say so in another thread. Currently this one is occupied with edifying and enlightening the world about Foxbat, not hating on him.
BlackArachnia
02-26-2008, 08:26 AM
Foxbat is such a looser that he could never make it as a hero so he had to become a villain. Well that and the fact that he's a meglomaniac idiot.
The Joker is an insane megalomaniac with homicidal and sociopathic tendencies. Yet he is still a popular character. Fox-Bat, on the other hand, is completly insane yet he, unlike the Joker, is actually funny. Fox-Bat is great!
SuperPheemy
02-26-2008, 10:41 AM
Just remember, any Foxbat-hate is all part of the Master Plan!
Tahoe
02-26-2008, 11:12 AM
Let me see if I can remember this classic comics panel from Second and Third Edition Champions...
"Foxbattleplan: Break into Champions headquarters, soundly defeat those pathetic wimps, and take Mechanon's brain. Next, hook it up to the transporter on the Paramount lot, kidnap everyone on Earth, and hold them for ransom."
That pretty much sums up Freddy right there... :D
My understanding is this game has a moonbase too, I'm sure Foxbat doesn't plan to just kidnap everyone on Earth, I'm sure his plans have grown over time .... perhaps just transport them all too the moon - should be crowded. Sounds just like his clouded mind I have grown to love. Foxbat has no plans to limited his villany/heroness to earth I am sure.
fuzun
02-26-2008, 11:51 AM
I use to have 4th edition Champions back in the early 90's....
My GM hated me and thus Foxbat became my archnemisis....
Everybody else had 'cool' villians like the Card Sharp Orginization (Dark Champions) or Viper...
I had Foxbat...
And the sad part? :(
I was never able to catch the bastid!!
And now I find out that he is the moderator here?
Somewhere, some when, in this vast universe, some omniscient entity is laughing at me....
Dude! How many dice of Unluck did you take for a Disadvantage.
fuzun
02-26-2008, 11:57 AM
I love using Foxbat in my games! My players on the other hand ... not so happy when they hear his theme song ;)
Wait! Foxbox has a theme song? I may regret this later. What is his theme song?
fuzun
02-26-2008, 12:01 PM
Then as the school bus leaves with the kids and the new wheelchair; a police officer finally shows up and ask:[/COLOR]
"Would you mind helping us with a case? It seems someone in a costume stole a morterized wheelchair from the old folks home next door, while they were doing water aerobics.."
Oh my.... Can't stop the giggling. I wish I could play in a session or two with GM. He sounds like a hoot.
I use to have 4th edition Champions back in the early 90's....
My GM hated me and thus Foxbat became my archnemisis....
Everybody else had 'cool' villians like the Card Sharp Orginization (Dark Champions) or Viper...
I had Foxbat...
And the sad part? :(
I was never able to catch the bastid!!
And now I find out that he is the moderator here?
Somewhere, some when, in this vast universe, some omniscient entity is laughing at me....
I'd kill to have a guy like Foxbat as my villain. Because you know that while the other heroes laugh as you fight him, you're gonna be the dude they call when he does something that actually works.
circeus
02-26-2008, 06:48 PM
Wait! Foxbox has a theme song? I may regret this later. What is his theme song?
Yeah, I think it was in one of the old Adventurer's Club mags. Foxbat used to have a column in them. I should probably dig them out, I have most of them.
AngelSilhouette
02-26-2008, 07:03 PM
Wait! Foxbox has a theme song? I may regret this later. What is his theme song?
Yeah, I think it was in one of the old Adventurer's Club mags. Foxbat used to have a column in them. I should probably dig them out, I have most of them.
I'm guessing Yackety Sax? (AKA The Benny Hill closing theme)
Malaclypse
02-26-2008, 08:05 PM
I'm taking it your not a fan of Foxbat?
While most of us may agree with your synopsis, we still find him to be a amusing megalomaniac idiot.
If you really dislike the character by all means say so in another thread. Currently this one is occupied with edifying and enlightening the world about Foxbat, not hating on him.
Of course, you realize that he would be the perfect victim for Foxbat, naturally.
His rightful prey.
Virgo
02-26-2008, 08:09 PM
Yeah, I think it was in one of the old Adventurer's Club mags. Foxbat used to have a column in them. I should probably dig them out, I have most of them.
YES! I remember that! And some of the writers would call start off their letters with "Dear Boxfat..." :D
SuperPheemy
02-26-2008, 08:11 PM
Foxbat has a plot that actually works???
I never realized those words could be put in that order and still be English...
Foxbat has a plot that actually works???
I never realized those words could be put in that order and still be English...
Actually, I think that's Canadian. Or maybe Australian. Definitely not English.
Generalama
02-26-2008, 09:29 PM
LOL foxbat http://www.freewebs.com/pritchards_roost/0aposter.jpg
Avatar_of_Champions
02-26-2008, 10:38 PM
Dude! How many dice of Unluck did you take for a Disadvantage.
Back then Foxbat had insane amounts of luck..... I mean gigantic... not sure about now.
SuperPheemy
02-27-2008, 01:11 AM
He's still got 6 dice. Which is still ridiculous, but at least the Luck Pool doesn't look like someone's EB any more. I use Foxy's luck liberally, especially when a player stepps over the line and decides that Foxbat is better off dead "Putting him out of our misery" is the trigger phrase. The Luck Pool also comes out when someone tries to stop his soliloquy, or tries to take too much advantage of his posing (both socially and physically).
Sometimes, Foxbat needs to be left as his own worst enemy. Because no one and I mean NO ONE wants the guy with 6D6 luck to be played seriously to win.
Malaclypse
02-27-2008, 07:52 PM
He's still got 6 dice. Which is still ridiculous, but at least the Luck Pool doesn't look like someone's EB any more. I use Foxy's luck liberally, especially when a player stepps over the line and decides that Foxbat is better off dead "Putting him out of our misery" is the trigger phrase. The Luck Pool also comes out when someone tries to stop his soliloquy, or tries to take too much advantage of his posing (both socially and physically).
Sometimes, Foxbat needs to be left as his own worst enemy. Because no one and I mean NO ONE wants the guy with 6D6 luck to be played seriously to win.
I thought the limit was 3d6 a couple of editions back... oh, maybe that was just me and my sanity.
AngelSilhouette
02-27-2008, 09:54 PM
God, I only ever played Champions PnP once and never got to learn any of this stuff (DM hated the game so only ever ran it once) I feel like I missed out on some really nifty stuff.
Tahoe
02-28-2008, 12:29 PM
Wait! Foxbox has a theme song? I may regret this later. What is his theme song?
I think it goes something like
Fuzun you'll never catch me
Fuzun you'll never catch me.... but I could be wrong!
Doctor_Why
02-28-2008, 04:02 PM
As the fluid-mediated transference of spheroid/ovid ultimately leads to void, we see only the one commonality. This is FoxBat: Master of the oid.
If obsessing about FoxBat is wrong, I don't WANT to be right, baby!
AngelSilhouette
02-28-2008, 04:04 PM
I think it goes something like
Fuzun you'll never catch me
Fuzun you'll never catch me.... but I could be wrong!
Hrumph, I was hoping it would be Yakety Sax, the end theme from Benny Hill -_-
Malaclypse
02-28-2008, 08:53 PM
Hrumph, I was hoping it would be Yakety Sax, the end theme from Benny Hill -_-
No, I think that's a touch too zany and up-beat, with no overtone of menace. Ponder further, oh dark messenger.
Doctor_Why
02-28-2008, 09:06 PM
I always thought it was "International Master Plan" by Belly Brain:
http://www.peterbernard.com/mp3/catemixes.html
Awfully clever of him to force them to write a theme song for him like that.
Malaclypse
02-28-2008, 10:01 PM
I always thought it was "International Master Plan" by Belly Brain:
http://www.peterbernard.com/mp3/catemixes.html
Awfully clever of him to force them to write a theme song for him like that.
Was that back when he was a Gangsta-Rappa? FoxxyBats?
Doctor_Why
02-29-2008, 10:30 AM
Never underestimate the FoxBat.