Equipment Defense Changes?

Shocktor · 09-19-2009, 10:44 AM

I don't see it in the patch notes, but the defenses (at least at the early levels) are lower than what they were (approximately -- some are maybe half?) in equipped items.

Was this in previous patch notes?

Some things that were 1.x are now 0.x and I noticed some that were 5.x that are now 2.x -- is this to go along with the 'slight' change in damage that mobs put out?

Also the other stat bonuses are lower.

Does this have to do with the new tables that you all were talking about earlier in the week?

Shocktor · 09-20-2009, 07:43 PM

Here are some actual numbers -- these changes are undocumented in the patch notes. It goes beyon the defense as the stats are different.

These items changes occurred with the latest patch - here is a low level sampling of items -- the stats changes get more pronounced as the original numbers (from live) go higher:

(LIVE) Qularr-Cide ( level 1)
+1 END
+1 EGO
+0.81 Physical Defense
+0.81 Energy Defense

(TEST) Qularr-Cide ( level 1)
+1 END
+1 EGO
+0.61 Physical Defense
+0.61 Energy Defense

(LIVE) SUO Weaponry (level 2)
+14 DEX
+4.2 Physical Defense
+4.2 Energy Defense

(TEST) SUO Weaponry (level 2)
+8 DEX
+2.5 Physical Defense
+2.5 Energy Defense

(LIVE) Enduring Divine Opal (level 4)
+3 END
+11 PRE
+5.3 Physical Defense
+5.3 Energy Defense

(TEST) Enduring Divine Opal (level 4)
+1 END
+5 PRE
+2.7 Physical Defense
+2.7 Energy Defense

(LIVE) Dark Pact Sigils (level 5)
+4 DEX
+14 REC
+5.5 Physical Defense
+5.5 Energy Defense

(TEST) Dark Pact Sigils (level 5)
+2 DEX
+8 REC
+3.1 Physical Defense
+3.1 Energy Defense

(LIVE) Rift Exposure (level 8)
+2 CON
+2 END
+1.4 Physical Defense
+1.4 Energy Defense

(TEST) Rift Exposure (level 8)
+1 CON
+1 END
+0.87 Physical Defense
+0.87 Energy Defense

(LIVE) Vanderbilts Lucky Lighter (level 8)
+4 REC
+1.4 Physical Defense
+1.4 Energy Defense

(TEST) Vanderbilts Lucky Lighter (level 8)
+3 REC
+0.87 Physical Defense
+0.87 Energy Defense

Sarielle · 09-20-2009, 07:55 PM

Eeeeeeeew.

Vid-szhite · 09-20-2009, 08:12 PM

Glad to see this getting some more exposure. I bugged it early this morning. Hopefully the devs will fix this before it goes live.

Shocktor · 09-20-2009, 08:17 PM

I posted yesterday afternoon and I was shocked that no one replied -- and you were the only other person to have a thread on this subject. Even someone I teamed with yesterday didn't notice the stat change until I pointed it out.

This is a significant change to EVERY player in the game.

I'd like to see some stats on higher level characters, but at the moment, I don't have anyone that high-level on test...

It would also be nice if a Dev could respond (or add a patch note to the 9/18 patch notes) -- hopefully tomorrow when they are back to work...

Bezurn · 09-20-2009, 08:20 PM

Yep, already a post on this. can find it here http://forums.champions-online.com/s...ad.php?t=70336

I am ran tutorial and both crisis areas earlier and documented the item differences, working on Canda post crisis now. Can find my data here

PeaGreen · 09-20-2009, 08:24 PM

http://forums.champions-online.com/s...ad.php?t=70264 Also another thread about defense changes here. Hoping for a dev post on monday to clarify why this wasn't documented and why it's really random across levels.

Asakara · 09-20-2009, 08:24 PM

This is a very bad stealth nerf.

Shocktor · 09-20-2009, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bezurn

Yep, already a post on this. can find it here http://forums.champions-online.com/s...ad.php?t=70336

I am ran tutorial and both crisis areas earlier and documented the item differences, working on Canda post crisis now. Can find my data here

Very nice -- I didn't see your post yesterday when I created mine, or I would've posted in yours.

Still, this needs to get some decent exposure before this patch goes live....

StormRevenant · 09-21-2009, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asakara

This is a very bad stealth nerf.

Indeed... this is a dirty side street mugged nerf.

09-19-2009, 10:44 AM	#1
Shocktor Vanguard Join Date: Oct 2008	Equipment Defense Changes? I don't see it in the patch notes, but the defenses (at least at the early levels) are lower than what they were (approximately -- some are maybe half?) in equipped items. Was this in previous patch notes? Some things that were 1.x are now 0.x and I noticed some that were 5.x that are now 2.x -- is this to go along with the 'slight' change in damage that mobs put out? Also the other stat bonuses are lower. Does this have to do with the new tables that you all were talking about earlier in the week? Last edited by Shocktor : 09-20-2009 at 07:46 PM.

09-20-2009, 07:43 PM	#2
Shocktor Vanguard Join Date: Oct 2008	Here are some actual numbers -- these changes are undocumented in the patch notes. It goes beyon the defense as the stats are different. These items changes occurred with the latest patch - here is a low level sampling of items -- the stats changes get more pronounced as the original numbers (from live) go higher: (LIVE) Qularr-Cide ( level 1) +1 END +1 EGO +0.81 Physical Defense +0.81 Energy Defense (TEST) Qularr-Cide ( level 1) +1 END +1 EGO +0.61 Physical Defense +0.61 Energy Defense (LIVE) SUO Weaponry (level 2) +14 DEX +4.2 Physical Defense +4.2 Energy Defense (TEST) SUO Weaponry (level 2) +8 DEX +2.5 Physical Defense +2.5 Energy Defense (LIVE) Enduring Divine Opal (level 4) +3 END +11 PRE +5.3 Physical Defense +5.3 Energy Defense (TEST) Enduring Divine Opal (level 4) +1 END +5 PRE +2.7 Physical Defense +2.7 Energy Defense (LIVE) Dark Pact Sigils (level 5) +4 DEX +14 REC +5.5 Physical Defense +5.5 Energy Defense (TEST) Dark Pact Sigils (level 5) +2 DEX +8 REC +3.1 Physical Defense +3.1 Energy Defense (LIVE) Rift Exposure (level 8) +2 CON +2 END +1.4 Physical Defense +1.4 Energy Defense (TEST) Rift Exposure (level 8) +1 CON +1 END +0.87 Physical Defense +0.87 Energy Defense (LIVE) Vanderbilts Lucky Lighter (level 8) +4 REC +1.4 Physical Defense +1.4 Energy Defense (TEST) Vanderbilts Lucky Lighter (level 8) +3 REC +0.87 Physical Defense +0.87 Energy Defense

09-20-2009, 07:55 PM	#3
Sarielle Champion Join Date: Aug 2009	Eeeeeeeew. __________________ >>Full Mission List -- by location or level<< >>Comprehensive Perk Guide -- with coordinates<< \|\| Sarielle: Guardian Angel (rate) \|\| Coyote: Trickster/Native American gunslinger (rate) \|\|

09-20-2009, 08:17 PM	#5
Shocktor Vanguard Join Date: Oct 2008	I posted yesterday afternoon and I was shocked that no one replied -- and you were the only other person to have a thread on this subject. Even someone I teamed with yesterday didn't notice the stat change until I pointed it out. This is a significant change to EVERY player in the game. I'd like to see some stats on higher level characters, but at the moment, I don't have anyone that high-level on test... It would also be nice if a Dev could respond (or add a patch note to the 9/18 patch notes) -- hopefully tomorrow when they are back to work... Last edited by Shocktor : 09-20-2009 at 08:19 PM.

09-20-2009, 08:24 PM	#7
PeaGreen Champion Join Date: Jul 2009	http://forums.champions-online.com/s...ad.php?t=70264 Also another thread about defense changes here. Hoping for a dev post on monday to clarify why this wasn't documented and why it's really random across levels. __________________ All I am saying... is give peas a chance!

09-20-2009, 08:12 PM	#4
Vid-szhite Hero Join Date: Sep 2009	Glad to see this getting some more exposure. I bugged it early this morning. Hopefully the devs will fix this before it goes live.

09-20-2009, 08:20 PM	#6
Bezurn Hero Join Date: Aug 2009	Yep, already a post on this. can find it here http://forums.champions-online.com/s...ad.php?t=70336 I am ran tutorial and both crisis areas earlier and documented the item differences, working on Canda post crisis now. Can find my data here

09-20-2009, 08:24 PM	#8
Asakara Champion Join Date: Aug 2009	This is a very bad stealth nerf.