Game Currently (nearly) Unplayable...

DragonDai · 09-22-2009, 09:18 AM

Just wanted to throw a little senario out there and see if anyone else was having similar problems. And no, this post have (basically) nothing to do with mini-mines. First a little about my character.

I have yet to use the new free respec. I heard this doesn't come out till tomorrow.

My character is level 20, and mostly munitions. I have 99 dex and ego (both my super stats) which is the maxed out damage potential from SS since the patch capped SS contribution to damage at 32%. The rest of my points (from gear only) are split pretty evenly between recovery, con, and endurance. They all are around the 40s. And I have Rank 3 lightning reflexes and Rank 1 Ebon Void (no advantage).

So here we go. I go out to Snake Gultch. I went to do the quest where you have to diffuse the missile silos at the viper base. A Villain and his 1 henchman (both 2 levels lower than me) buddy come over, and I die. Looking back thru my combat log, i notice the Villain killed me with very little help from the henchman, in about 2 shots.

I then go over to try to kill the Viper Gunsmiths near Snake Gultch. The first group I come upon is two of them and a henchman. I drop in and die before I kill anything. Down to three stars.

I go back and find a Gunsmith with 2 henchmen. Dead before I kill anything. 2 stars.

I go back out, find a group of three henchmen 2 levels lower than me. I get two of them down before the third one kills me. 1 star.

I got back out, find two henchmen, again, 2 levels lower than me, and kill them both. My health is almost depleted. Just then, a Villain and a henchman, still two levels lower than me, come over and kill me. The Villain kills me in a single hit, while I was blocking. I was over 1k hps. He did 1k+ damage in a single shot while I was blocking.

I am now at 0 stars...

All I can say is, WHAT THE HELL!??!?!?!?!?!?!

This is ridiculous. Something went SERIOUSLY wrong in the patch today. I thought critters were supposed to do slightly less damage, not TONS more damage. 1k+ damage THRU my block. And he was lower level than me! How are we even supposed to keep playing this game?

I am sitting there having to use Drain Life (told you, I am MOSTLY munitions) on henchman just so that they don't kill me. This is ludicrous.

Please, someone tell me this is only a bug or something. I am going to check my other characters out over the next couple of days, but I am pretty sure I am going to find similar results everywhere. The end of CO (at least for me) is right around the corner if they don't get their heads on straight and make the game playable. I don't pay them 15 bucks a month to die over and over and over again to things that shouldn't even be a challenge (and yeah, 3 henchman 2 levels lower than you should not even be a challenge at all). I shouldn't have to group with 5 other people, one of which is a real tank and one of which is a real healer just so that I can go thru the game's solo content.

Please tell me there are other people who are experiencing these problems and who are as angry about it as I am.

viranth · 09-22-2009, 09:27 AM

I'm getting wtfpwned by henchmen one level above me, even thought I could take them on fairly easy before this patch.

It's actually so hard to take down henchmen now, that I need help to complete any of my missions. Which are all my level!

So without a group, I'm currently stuck. Unless I respec my way to a better build.

Bru7us · 09-22-2009, 09:31 AM

I suppose this must be some kind of glitch on SOME mob types, because I was reading these threads and came home really warried. But gues so - my lev 16 toon (which I played through yesterday is same powerhouse as it was.

4 henchman (+1lev to myself) -> dead in few seconds, next to no harm to me done
2 henchman + 1 villian -> bit dmg to myself otherwise dead as fast as ever
1 Master Vilian (+2 lev) with 2x hench add in middle of the fight - I was at 30% HP but did not have tu use block

All fights in MC.

I am getting bit more dmg then yesterday but not that much to notice it without reading forums.

So maybe during patch some mobs in some locations got borked and are now hitting much harder then they should?

DragonDai · 09-22-2009, 09:35 AM

Yeah, I heard a couple other people saying similar things (aka their mobs were fine). I am gana test it on a level 6, a level 11, and a level 32 when I get home tonight.

Eugee · 09-22-2009, 09:36 AM

If you're taking 1000+ through a block, then something is bugged or not working correctly. I'm not saying you aren't telling me what you think is true, but I'm very doubtful that your block was actually up if you took 1000 damage in a single shot. Maybe you raised it at the last second and the game registered you weren't blocking? It sounds like this is happening all the time though, so I'm not sure what to tell you.

I was taking 600-900 at 28 through my block--versus the Mega-destroyer at the end of Dr Destroyer's Robot Factory. (Rank 3 Force Shield).

My play experience has not been the same on my munitions character. I have a ton of Dex/Ego (innate, talents, superstats, and upgrades all dex/ego focused), and Lighting Reflexes. At 16 I have no trouble at all soloing--using primarily Two Gun Mojo, Bullet Ballet, and Breakaway Shot. (Lead Tempest will be my next pickup.)

I have a level 31 minimines spammer, which I feel is relevant, who basically did nothing but Block while waiting for mini-mines to recharge, from level 8 onward. I've never seen hits through a block like what you're describing.

Progressman · 09-22-2009, 09:37 AM

Passive?

Also, I can't WAIT until you fight the Fleshripper swarms of Insects/Fish in Monster island and Lemuria. Come back when you fight a mob of these.

ForgottenLords · 09-22-2009, 09:39 AM

I just wrote up a thread in an attempt to illustrate some problems similar (or at least parallel) to what you are having as well. I wrote that up after playing my Munitions character as well (which I don't PVP with, and don't even have the Mini Mine or Teleport abilities).

Check it out here. Hopefully someone at Cryptic will notice one of us!

Slarus · 09-22-2009, 09:40 AM

Everyone say thank you to the PvPers who have the power to change the game.

Yes this is now a group only game and PvP FPS gamer type game. without the ability to reduce damage output of mobs (Killing and/or holding) you now have to build every "hero" with massive defensive powers, so work on that Con and DEF powers folks till they nerf that too.

So if you like respawning and think that is heroic, Champions is for you. I can't return this game I spent $50.00 for a game that is utterly pointless now, at least with an XBox game I could trade it, but this I am stuck with...new cup coasters is the best I can get for a crappy MMO.

Parfex · 09-22-2009, 09:40 AM

My might/force guy is getting reamed with the new patch... but my telekinesis/telepathy guy isn't having anywhere near as hard a time, even though he's the same level. Something's screwy.

Lunation · 09-22-2009, 09:50 AM

My level 24 is unplayable. My lowbie melee is unplayable. My 36 is unplayable.

Across the board suckage.

Didn't Even bother with my offensive passive toons.

09-22-2009, 09:18 AM	#1
DragonDai Hero Join Date: Jun 2009	Game Currently (nearly) Unplayable... Just wanted to throw a little senario out there and see if anyone else was having similar problems. And no, this post have (basically) nothing to do with mini-mines. First a little about my character. I have yet to use the new free respec. I heard this doesn't come out till tomorrow. My character is level 20, and mostly munitions. I have 99 dex and ego (both my super stats) which is the maxed out damage potential from SS since the patch capped SS contribution to damage at 32%. The rest of my points (from gear only) are split pretty evenly between recovery, con, and endurance. They all are around the 40s. And I have Rank 3 lightning reflexes and Rank 1 Ebon Void (no advantage). So here we go. I go out to Snake Gultch. I went to do the quest where you have to diffuse the missile silos at the viper base. A Villain and his 1 henchman (both 2 levels lower than me) buddy come over, and I die. Looking back thru my combat log, i notice the Villain killed me with very little help from the henchman, in about 2 shots. I then go over to try to kill the Viper Gunsmiths near Snake Gultch. The first group I come upon is two of them and a henchman. I drop in and die before I kill anything. Down to three stars. I go back and find a Gunsmith with 2 henchmen. Dead before I kill anything. 2 stars. I go back out, find a group of three henchmen 2 levels lower than me. I get two of them down before the third one kills me. 1 star. I got back out, find two henchmen, again, 2 levels lower than me, and kill them both. My health is almost depleted. Just then, a Villain and a henchman, still two levels lower than me, come over and kill me. The Villain kills me in a single hit, while I was blocking. I was over 1k hps. He did 1k+ damage in a single shot while I was blocking. I am now at 0 stars... All I can say is, WHAT THE HELL!??!?!?!?!?!?! This is ridiculous. Something went SERIOUSLY wrong in the patch today. I thought critters were supposed to do slightly less damage, not TONS more damage. 1k+ damage THRU my block. And he was lower level than me! How are we even supposed to keep playing this game? I am sitting there having to use Drain Life (told you, I am MOSTLY munitions) on henchman just so that they don't kill me. This is ludicrous. Please, someone tell me this is only a bug or something. I am going to check my other characters out over the next couple of days, but I am pretty sure I am going to find similar results everywhere. The end of CO (at least for me) is right around the corner if they don't get their heads on straight and make the game playable. I don't pay them 15 bucks a month to die over and over and over again to things that shouldn't even be a challenge (and yeah, 3 henchman 2 levels lower than you should not even be a challenge at all). I shouldn't have to group with 5 other people, one of which is a real tank and one of which is a real healer just so that I can go thru the game's solo content. Please tell me there are other people who are experiencing these problems and who are as angry about it as I am. __________________

09-22-2009, 09:35 AM	#4
DragonDai Hero Join Date: Jun 2009	Yeah, I heard a couple other people saying similar things (aka their mobs were fine). I am gana test it on a level 6, a level 11, and a level 32 when I get home tonight. __________________

09-22-2009, 09:37 AM	#6
Progressman Champion Join Date: Nov 2008	Passive? Also, I can't WAIT until you fight the Fleshripper swarms of Insects/Fish in Monster island and Lemuria. Come back when you fight a mob of these. __________________ Proceed with extreme caution, for when you compress a calumniators capital, they have a tendency to respond with immediate legal recourse!

09-22-2009, 09:50 AM	#10
Lunation Champion Join Date: Feb 2008	My level 24 is unplayable. My lowbie melee is unplayable. My 36 is unplayable. Across the board suckage. Didn't Even bother with my offensive passive toons. __________________ "Personally, I think we've done enough of the beating and torture and I'm ready to move straight to the beheading." -Taskmaster-

09-22-2009, 09:27 AM	#2
viranth Citizen Join Date: Aug 2008	I'm getting wtfpwned by henchmen one level above me, even thought I could take them on fairly easy before this patch. It's actually so hard to take down henchmen now, that I need help to complete any of my missions. Which are all my level! So without a group, I'm currently stuck. Unless I respec my way to a better build.

09-22-2009, 09:31 AM	#3
Bru7us Citizen Join Date: Sep 2009	I suppose this must be some kind of glitch on SOME mob types, because I was reading these threads and came home really warried. But gues so - my lev 16 toon (which I played through yesterday is same powerhouse as it was. 4 henchman (+1lev to myself) -> dead in few seconds, next to no harm to me done 2 henchman + 1 villian -> bit dmg to myself otherwise dead as fast as ever 1 Master Vilian (+2 lev) with 2x hench add in middle of the fight - I was at 30% HP but did not have tu use block All fights in MC. I am getting bit more dmg then yesterday but not that much to notice it without reading forums. So maybe during patch some mobs in some locations got borked and are now hitting much harder then they should?

09-22-2009, 09:36 AM	#5
Eugee Hero Join Date: Aug 2009	If you're taking 1000+ through a block, then something is bugged or not working correctly. I'm not saying you aren't telling me what you think is true, but I'm very doubtful that your block was actually up if you took 1000 damage in a single shot. Maybe you raised it at the last second and the game registered you weren't blocking? It sounds like this is happening all the time though, so I'm not sure what to tell you. I was taking 600-900 at 28 through my block--versus the Mega-destroyer at the end of Dr Destroyer's Robot Factory. (Rank 3 Force Shield). My play experience has not been the same on my munitions character. I have a ton of Dex/Ego (innate, talents, superstats, and upgrades all dex/ego focused), and Lighting Reflexes. At 16 I have no trouble at all soloing--using primarily Two Gun Mojo, Bullet Ballet, and Breakaway Shot. (Lead Tempest will be my next pickup.) I have a level 31 minimines spammer, which I feel is relevant, who basically did nothing but Block while waiting for mini-mines to recharge, from level 8 onward. I've never seen hits through a block like what you're describing.

09-22-2009, 09:39 AM	#7
ForgottenLords Citizen Join Date: Apr 2009	I just wrote up a thread in an attempt to illustrate some problems similar (or at least parallel) to what you are having as well. I wrote that up after playing my Munitions character as well (which I don't PVP with, and don't even have the Mini Mine or Teleport abilities). Check it out here. Hopefully someone at Cryptic will notice one of us!

09-22-2009, 09:40 AM	#8
Slarus Champion Join Date: Aug 2009	Everyone say thank you to the PvPers who have the power to change the game. Yes this is now a group only game and PvP FPS gamer type game. without the ability to reduce damage output of mobs (Killing and/or holding) you now have to build every "hero" with massive defensive powers, so work on that Con and DEF powers folks till they nerf that too. So if you like respawning and think that is heroic, Champions is for you. I can't return this game I spent $50.00 for a game that is utterly pointless now, at least with an XBox game I could trade it, but this I am stuck with...new cup coasters is the best I can get for a crappy MMO.

09-22-2009, 09:40 AM	#9
Parfex Champion Join Date: Jul 2009	My might/force guy is getting reamed with the new patch... but my telekinesis/telepathy guy isn't having anywhere near as hard a time, even though he's the same level. Something's screwy.